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My First Church Experience

by @purifyinggrace on May 15, 2009

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Talk to any minister or pastor or elder of any church and they will tell you that their church has issues. Probably one of the greatest tragedies of the pastorship is church mutiny or rebellion. I once heard T. D. Jakes (while I disagree with him theologically, I respect the man as a leader) say to a group of leaders, “We all have a Judas sitting at the table with us.” Chuck Swindoll, Sr. Pastor of Stonebriar Community Church and Chancellor of Dallas Seminary, once said, “If there is any other profession that you can do other than the pastorate, do it.” This from a beloved pastor, a great pastor, a good teacher, President Emeritus of Dallas Seminary, a great seminary that produces solid, biblical, expositional/exegetical pastors. However, Swindoll would never tell anyone who was called to be a pastor that they should not pastor. Instead Swindoll simply means that if your conscience before God can live without blemish or trouble or guilt or shame and do something other than the pastorate, do it. However, if one is compelled by God and will only deteriorate doing something else, they should pastor. So what does Swindoll know that make him say this? Simply, the highest causality in churches is that we shoot our own. Maybe Swindoll had this in mind or what Jakes said or something else, when he said that. Simply, many pastors are wounded, beaten, hit, and then they are “killed” while they are down. Though they live, their passion is gone. Their heart is broken. Their spirits are weakened. They are lost, drifting, sinking, or dead.

Not knowing this, full of zeal and spirit and some truth, I entered “ministry.” I transferred to a Bible College. I had a great experience at my former college church founded by someone who went to a Bible College. That church was unique, vibrant, healthy, and good! Let me give you two examples of that church. First, one day the pastor sent out an email about a member of the church, a college student (being a college church, about 80-90% of the congregation were college students). He just received a call that one of his parents was deathly ill and that he had no money (nor did his family) to fly him back. So the email came. Within the hour, the guy had more than enough funds, a ticket to Seattle, and a ride to the airport. Amazing! The second was during church. Instead of an offering plate (which was normally a felt bag of sorts), a wooden offering plate full of $5 bills was passed. We were to take money out or let it pass. We were encouraged to take money for ourselves or for someone close to us (roommate, etc) that needed it, but we couldn’t take more than $50. And this happened fairly regularly! Wow!

Well, I came back to the church that was responsible for my conversion upon my transfer to a Bible College. I began to be discipled by the Sr. Pastor, for his name sake and protection let’s call him Ken. Ken agreed to meet with me weekly while I was at Bible College to teach me about communication, preaching, hermeneutics, etc. It was great. I traveled with him to speak at various places. I attended church meetings (deacon meetings, elder meetings, leadership meetings) and was becoming actively involved in the leadership myself. Everything seemed to be going well. While my memory is not the best as far as what happened chronologically, several things happened and they happened fairly quickly. First, Ken missed a couple (maybe even several) meetings. I remember one in particularly that was scheduled and re-scheduled at a local Waffle House. I arrived on time and ready to chat; however, he never showed up. I called his cell and got no answer. I called the church and got no answer. Nothing. From that moment forward, he began to ignore me. He failed to return my calls, emails, etc., which normally were returned. I could not and did not understand what happened. Surely Ken felt betrayed by the church and pushed people away.

A bit later, the church went through a massive church split. I was asked by both sides to come on staff as the youth minister (the side that the youth pastor did not choose) or the college minister (the side that the youth pastor did choose). I was frightened and shocked that a church could do this. Believing that both sides were at fault somehow in some way, I walked away. Broken, confused, churchless (which felt like homelessness), I wondered. From here I have struggled with churches ever since. I was never told why the church split and still to this day I have no idea what happened. I have also never been to get back in touch with Ken for whatever reason.

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by @purifyinggrace on April 19, 2009

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Interesting Review of Celebrate Recovery

by @purifyinggrace on April 16, 2009

I have read and re-read and thought about a review of Celebrate Recovery (CR) I recently found at Provision House. It is a “non-profit, 501(c)(3), non-residential addictions ministry that helps Christians find freedom from addiction in Christ and helps churches understand addiction from an emphatically biblical perspective” located in Charlotte, NC with a generic evangelical statement of faith.

Operating his own addiction ministry, Paul is knowledgeable in the area of addiction. While his review is not entirely negative, he is not positive towards CR as well. When I first started reading it, as any faithful CR person, I became offended; however, I have thought many of the same thoughts that Paul Stark brings up. As a short summary, let me raise his main arguments against Celebrate Recovery. In no particular order, here are his objections or reservations, as I understand him.

  1. He writes, “One particularly troubling practice is the curriculum’s pervasive use of Bible paraphrases.”
  2. Lack of Romans 6 Theology, or does CR subscribe to the thought, “once an addict, always an addict”?
  3. No explanation/teaching on temptation.
  4. Implicit, or even explicit, coercion of CR that everyone is in denial and playing God (powerless).
  5. Inadequate explanation of Christian service, esp. outside CR.
  6. Impractical tools to avoid temptation.
  7. CR Rule “No Cross Talk” is problematic and the parallel wording. Mr. Stark writes, “All participants are viewed identically, as helpless children [who require clear and simple instructions under parental supervision], all with the same relational, personality, and spiritual problems”
  8. The idea that the further one plunges into oblivion the greater the likelihood of discovering a resource to break free is naïve, yet sometimes implicitly encouraged, and risks that participants will accelerate the plunge in an attempt to reach this point sooner.

I believe that some of these are valid and need to be discussed. To his credit, Paul Stark has tried to contact CR to no avail. So I will attempt to continue the discussion. For me the four biggest (in no particular order) are (1) one’s version of the Bible, (2) Lack of Romans 6 Theology, (3) Lack of Teaching on Temptation, Christian Service, and Sanctification, and (4) CR Rule “No Cross Talk” (which can be coupled with #3 in a solution). Since Paul Stark makes a big deal about Denial and Powerlessness, I will discuss it briefly.

Paraphrase: Is it a big deal?

So really, what is the big deal about CR’s use of a paraphrase? First, let me say that, any Bible, whether translation or paraphrase, is better than no Bible. Second, one should always study from a Bible that is a translation. Believe it or not, we all believe words are a big deal! For example, how many times have you heard someone say, “The Bible says ALL so it means ALL” (for example, Romans 3:23). That’s only one word, and if that one word is that important, then isn’t every word important? Jesus himself said that the Bible is important down to the dot of an “i” though he said it referring to the Hebrew’s jot and tittle (Matt 5:18). If we believe that the Bible is inspired down to its very words, then why depend on a paraphrase of the actual words? Why not read something that attempts to stay true to the meaning of the original Hebrew and Greek?

So, I strongly agree and reiterate the comment that Paul Stark makes: “One particularly troubling practice is the curriculum’s pervasive use of Bible paraphrases.” To me, this is of extreme importance. I have asked around why CR does this, and I have come to the following conclusion. First, it is the style of Saddleback and Rick Warren. Second, the audience of most recovery-addiction places are believed to be Bible illiterate (whether it is true or not). Third, traditionally, AA and other recovery-addiction places use and encourage the use of paraphrases. However, it should be noted that many paraphrases, even the much beloved The Message Bible, is just that: a paraphrase. So as not to reinvent the wheel, let me quote Paul Stark,

For example, Mark 1:15 is quoted, “Turn from your sins and act on this glorious news

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Twitter Weekly Updates for PurifyingGrace

April 12, 2009

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April 5, 2009

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March 29, 2009

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Devotion: John 5:1-17

March 29, 2009

Rich Mullins, a famous Christian musician, said, “People don’t read the Bible to know stuff; they read it to know God.” So I wondered what I was doing. I did start off to know God. I got a Bible College education because I wanted to know God. However, something happened. Something changed. There was a [...]

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The Love of God

March 28, 2009

I went to this Christian training institute, and I roomed with a guy from Arizona State University who became a dear friend of mine. One day we came into our hotel suite room after a long day of classes (8 to 5). He threw himself on his bed and said, “I think I’ll just let [...]

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March 1, 2009

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Update: Tragedy of Online Accountability for Cell Phones

February 26, 2009

Recently, I wrote a post on The Tragedy of Online Accountability that frankly needs to be updated. So here it is updated.
One of the gravest things about online accountability is the inability for “all

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February 22, 2009

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